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I am currently looking at the criterion and I see that the foreign language in the poem is not italicized.  

The following is a narrative of how the criterion format looks:

On the first page there is a break between the lines "I read, much of the night, and go south in the winter"
and (double spaced)
What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow
...
...
Last line on page: "And the dry stone no sound of water.  Only"
Next page: There is shadow under this red rock,
........
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I will show you fear in a handful of dust.

Frisch weht der Wind
...
...
Wo Weilest du?

"You game me hyacinths first a year ago;
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...
Loking into the heart of light, the silence.

Od' und leer das Meer.

Madame Sosostris, famous clairvoyante
...
...
I see crowds of people, walking round in a ring.
(Next page--not visible, must turn page)

Now let me compare that to the first two pages from the Dial 

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Oh wow, I just realized that the epigrah is NOT INCLUDED in the Criterion!

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The Dial
The Burial of the Dead - As we've noted before, there is no numbering of the text that was published in America.
April is the cruelest month, breeding
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...
I read, much of the night, and go south in the winter.
(next page - must turn!)
What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow
...
...
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.

''Frisch weht der Wind'' - this version is italicised!
...
...
''Wo Weilest du?''

You gave me hyacinths first a year ago;
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...
The Hanged Man.  Fear death by water.
(next page - look across)
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There are more breaks in the British version of the poem.  The American version looks more like a continuous, long text--like Whiman's poetry.  Were publishers categorizing Eliot?

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Printed in Great Britain by Hazell, Watson & viney, Ld., London and Aylesbury.

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Ads in the back of The Dial
Steinway (a piano company, prices $875 and up--plus freight)
Steinway & sons, Steinway Hall, 109 E. 14th St, NY

Scott & Fowles
New Art Galleries
667 5 avenue NY


American paintings and sculpture - exhibition of the late William M Chase
Ferargh Galleries
607 5 Avenue

Exhibition of Chinese Paintings
Bourgeois Galleries Inc.
668 5 avenue

Jewels,
Dreicer & Co
560 5 ave

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The October edition of the Dial was sold out--by a lot.  Evidently, they increased their printing production by 2500 copies to make sure there was not another shortage.  (I am taking this from an apology that is printed in the back of book).

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"Joseph
632 5 avenue
fall fashions in the new sport wear room
Misses' college clothes
Daytime and dance frocks"

The Copley-Plaza (in Boston)
The Plaza (New York) - Hotels, of course

DeSoto Hotel
Savannah, GA.
The premier Tourist Hotel of the South
Open Jan 1 to May 1

Chalfonte-
Haddon Hall
Atlantic City

There are many literary service ads (about agents, books)

Robert Thomas Hardy
Play-Broker and Authors' agent
25 W 42 St.

Carl G Milligan
Service for Authors, inc.
33 West 42 st.

I see an ad for a Russian inn, "gooks in all languages" from Boston, English (Cambridge business, H Heffer & sons ltd) dealer ads, German books, & periodicals, Stratford-on-avon, England, New York, Columbia, French books

Hammond typewriter corp

Edeson Radio Phones

ad for "the literary review"

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The Dial is longer and wider


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The Dial

Thanks Elizabeth!  Okay, here are notes from this past Friday when I returned to Special Collections:

The Dial was actually published in connecticut, although its offices were located at 152 W 13th St. New York, NY.  View the space of the old office here: [http://goo.gl/maps/Nbiqz]

As for the issue of the Dial in which the Waste Land appeared: Vol. LXXIII No. 5 Nov 1922

Cost, $.50 per issue or $5 for a yearly subscription.

Editor: Scofield Thayer
Managing Editor: Gilbert Seldes

Notes on Contributors:

Constantin Brancusi- scultper, born in Romania, living in Paris
Robert Delaunay - born in Paris in 1887, influenced by Russeau
Elie Faure - author of The History of Art, reviewed by Thomas Craven in Feb 1922 issue of The Dial. In this issue, Faure replies to Craven's criticism.
Duncan Grant - born in Scottish highlands.
Adolph Dehn - living in Germany and Austria
Sebastien Cauiflower - American

The Dial does include ads.  They are ordered below by appearance: 

Harcourt, Brace & Company
The Century Company
Macmillan
Broom Magazine
Boni & Liveright
The New Republic
Knopf
The Atlantic Monthly Press - 7 Steel: The Diary of a Furnace Worker
Little, Brown & Company - This Freedom by ASM Hutchinson
Theatre Magazine "A History of theatre in America."
Doubleday, Page & Co.
George H Doran & Co.
Brentanos Publishers
Harper & Brothers
Houghton Mifflin
Robert M McBride & Co.
Costikyan & Co. - 12 E 40 St New York, NY. - "Antique & Modern Rugs from the Orient." "Largest Assortment in the World."

Notes about text:

"An edition of the The Land with annotations will presently be issued by Boni & Liveright" - The editors.

In the dial, the first break in the text actually comes at the end of the page

"HURRY UP PLEASE IT'S TIME" actually appears in a different font from the rest of the poem (it's not only capitalized).

There are differences in pagination as concerns the poem in the U.S and British editions.

In The Criterion, the following lines were not aligned to the right (as they were in The Dial).  Instead, they were simply indented: "if there were water," "I sat upon the shore," "A current under sea," Gentile or Jew," 
The Hot Water at 10."

9-10-12, 10:32 am

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Here are my notes so far. I spent considerably more time with the Dial than the Criterion last week. :: ''The Dial'' :: Published October 1922 (November issue) in New York. Sections of poem not enumerated I, II, III, IV, V. Schnitzler, Weinstein, “Made in Germany” – German contributions, post-war, with Waste Land’s war themes, universal war not anti-Germany right now. WB Yeats’ play The Player Queen is right after the Waste Land. Schnitzler: October Graesler starts with “XII (continued)” – an installment of a novel transalted from German. Picasso drawings of naked women lounging – was this not scandal? ''Date?'' Also paintings of nude/acrobats by Duncan Grant. ''Who is he?'' Adolph Dehn. “Drinkers” during Prohibition… "Any Marriages" by Sherwood Anderson starts with Chapter IV, and goes into ch 1 or Book Two, possibly to leave suspense to look for the rest of part 2. “Paris Letter” by Ezra Pound. Lots of interesting stuff on the first page: 1. “literature is regarded in America as an advertising medium.” 2. “our brilliant contemporary Mr T.S. Eliot constantly assures us that he is about to pursue [the attempt to disentangle our national qualities]” (our = US and British). “Comment” about children’s book week. Sarcastic and hilarious! Ads: for art shows, bookshops, books, other periodicals. Ad layouts are like modern theater playbills; modern play programs are laid out much like this whole magazine with ads in the front and back and written or photgraphic content in the middle. Feels more like a magazine because of ads. The Waste Land is the very first written contribution, only preceded by one watercolor painting. Perhaps because Eliot had been living in GB for a while by now and was perhaps more like a featured contributor – not included on the “notable contributors” page. :: ''The Criterion'' :: Published October 1922 in London. No ads. Looks like a book from cover to cover. No images. The Waste Land is in the middle of the publication --Elizabeth 09/08/2012 10:53pm