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I am currently looking at the criterion and I see that the foreign language in the poem is not italicized. 
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The following is a narrative of how the criterion format looks:
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On the first page there is a break between the lines "I read, much of the night, and go south in the winter"
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and (double spaced)
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What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow
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...
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...
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Last line on page: "And the dry stone no sound of water.  Only"
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Next page: There is shadow under this red rock,
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........
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I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
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Frisch weht der Wind
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...
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...
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Wo Weilest du?
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"You game me hyacinths first a year ago;
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...
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...
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Loking into the heart of light, the silence.
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Od' und leer das Meer.
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Madame Sosostris, famous clairvoyante
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...
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...
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I see crowds of people, walking round in a ring.
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(Next page--not visible, must turn page)
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Now let me compare that to the first two pages from the Dial
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Oh wow, I just realized that the epigrah is NOT INCLUDED in the Criterion!
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The Dial
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The Burial of the Dead - As we've noted before, there is no numbering of the text that was published in America.
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April is the cruelest month, breeding
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...
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...
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I read, much of the night, and go south in the winter.
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(next page - must turn!)
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What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow
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...
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...
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I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
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''Frisch weht der Wind'' - this version is italicised!
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...
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''Wo Weilest du?''
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You gave me hyacinths first a year ago;
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...
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...
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The Hanged Man.  Fear death by water.
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(next page - look across)
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There are more breaks in the British version of the poem.  The American version looks more like a continuous, long text--like Whiman's poetry.  Were publishers categorizing Eliot?
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Printed in Great Britain by Hazell, Watson & viney, Ld., London and Aylesbury.
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Ads in the back of The Dial
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Steinway (a piano company, prices $875 and up--plus freight)
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Steinway & sons, Steinway Hall, 109 E. 14th St, NY
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Scott & Fowles
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New Art Galleries
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667 5 avenue NY
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American paintings and sculpture - exhibition of the late William M Chase
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Ferargh Galleries
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607 5 Avenue
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Exhibition of Chinese Paintings
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Bourgeois Galleries Inc.
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668 5 avenue
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Jewels,
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Dreicer & Co
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560 5 ave
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The October edition of the Dial was sold out--by a lot.  Evidently, they increased their printing production by 2500 copies to make sure there was not another shortage.  (I am taking this from an apology that is printed in the back of book).
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"Joseph
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632 5 avenue
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fall fashions in the new sport wear room
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Misses' college clothes
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Daytime and dance frocks"
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The Copley-Plaza (in Boston)
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The Plaza (New York) - Hotels, of course
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DeSoto Hotel
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Savannah, GA.
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The premier Tourist Hotel of the South
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Open Jan 1 to May 1
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Chalfonte-
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Haddon Hall
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Atlantic City
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There are many literary service ads (about agents, books)
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Robert Thomas Hardy
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Play-Broker and Authors' agent
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25 W 42 St.
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Carl G Milligan
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Service for Authors, inc.
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33 West 42 st.
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I see an ad for a Russian inn, "gooks in all languages" from Boston, English (Cambridge business, H Heffer & sons ltd) dealer ads, German books, & periodicals, Stratford-on-avon, England, New York, Columbia, French books
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Hammond typewriter corp
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Edeson Radio Phones
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ad for "the literary review"
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The Dial is longer and wider
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The Dial
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Thanks Elizabeth!  Okay, here are notes from this past Friday when I returned to Special Collections:
 
Thanks Elizabeth!  Okay, here are notes from this past Friday when I returned to Special Collections:
  
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Here are my notes so far. I spent considerably more time with the Dial than the Criterion last week. :: ''The Dial'' :: Published October 1922 (November issue) in New York. Sections of poem not enumerated I, II, III, IV, V. Schnitzler, Weinstein, “Made in Germany” – German contributions, post-war, with Waste Land’s war themes, universal war not anti-Germany right now. WB Yeats’ play The Player Queen is right after the Waste Land. Schnitzler: October Graesler starts with “XII (continued)” – an installment of a novel transalted from German. Picasso drawings of naked women lounging – was this not scandal? ''Date?'' Also paintings of nude/acrobats by Duncan Grant. ''Who is he?'' Adolph Dehn. “Drinkers” during Prohibition… "Any Marriages" by Sherwood Anderson starts with Chapter IV, and goes into ch 1 or Book Two, possibly to leave suspense to look for the rest of part 2. “Paris Letter” by Ezra Pound. Lots of interesting stuff on the first page: 1. “literature is regarded in America as an advertising medium.” 2. “our brilliant contemporary Mr T.S. Eliot constantly assures us that he is about to pursue [the attempt to disentangle our national qualities]” (our = US and British). “Comment” about children’s book week. Sarcastic and hilarious! Ads: for art shows, bookshops, books, other periodicals. Ad layouts are like modern theater playbills; modern play programs are laid out much like this whole magazine with ads in the front and back and written or photgraphic content in the middle. Feels more like a magazine because of ads. The Waste Land is the very first written contribution, only preceded by one watercolor painting. Perhaps because Eliot had been living in GB for a while by now and was perhaps more like a featured contributor – not included on the “notable contributors” page. :: ''The Criterion'' :: Published October 1922 in London. No ads. Looks like a book from cover to cover. No images. The Waste Land is in the middle of the publication --Elizabeth 09/08/2012 10:53pm
 
Here are my notes so far. I spent considerably more time with the Dial than the Criterion last week. :: ''The Dial'' :: Published October 1922 (November issue) in New York. Sections of poem not enumerated I, II, III, IV, V. Schnitzler, Weinstein, “Made in Germany” – German contributions, post-war, with Waste Land’s war themes, universal war not anti-Germany right now. WB Yeats’ play The Player Queen is right after the Waste Land. Schnitzler: October Graesler starts with “XII (continued)” – an installment of a novel transalted from German. Picasso drawings of naked women lounging – was this not scandal? ''Date?'' Also paintings of nude/acrobats by Duncan Grant. ''Who is he?'' Adolph Dehn. “Drinkers” during Prohibition… "Any Marriages" by Sherwood Anderson starts with Chapter IV, and goes into ch 1 or Book Two, possibly to leave suspense to look for the rest of part 2. “Paris Letter” by Ezra Pound. Lots of interesting stuff on the first page: 1. “literature is regarded in America as an advertising medium.” 2. “our brilliant contemporary Mr T.S. Eliot constantly assures us that he is about to pursue [the attempt to disentangle our national qualities]” (our = US and British). “Comment” about children’s book week. Sarcastic and hilarious! Ads: for art shows, bookshops, books, other periodicals. Ad layouts are like modern theater playbills; modern play programs are laid out much like this whole magazine with ads in the front and back and written or photgraphic content in the middle. Feels more like a magazine because of ads. The Waste Land is the very first written contribution, only preceded by one watercolor painting. Perhaps because Eliot had been living in GB for a while by now and was perhaps more like a featured contributor – not included on the “notable contributors” page. :: ''The Criterion'' :: Published October 1922 in London. No ads. Looks like a book from cover to cover. No images. The Waste Land is in the middle of the publication --Elizabeth 09/08/2012 10:53pm

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