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Here are my notes so far. I spent considerably more time with the Dial than the Criterion last week.
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Elizabeth,
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''The Dial''
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published October 1922 (November issue) in New York
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sections of poem not enumerated I, II, III, IV, V
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Schnitzler, Weinstein, “Made in Germany” – German contributions, post-war, with Waste Land’s war themes, universal war not anti-Germany right now
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WB Yeats’ play The Player Queen is right after the Waste Land
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Schnitzler: October Graesler starts with “XII (continued)” – an installment of a novel transalted from German
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Picasso drawings of naked women lounging – was this not scandal? Date?
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also paintings of nude/acrobats by Duncan Grant. Who is he?
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Adolph Dehn. “Drinkers” during Prohibition…
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any Marriages by Sherwood Anderson starts with Chapter IV, and goes into ch 1 or Book Two, possibly to leave suspense to look for the rest of part 2
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“Paris Letter” by Ezra Pound. Lots of interesting stuff on the first page: 1. “literature is regarded in America as an advertising medium.” 2. “our brilliant contemporary Mr T.S. Eliot constantly assures us that he is about to pursue [the attempt to disentangle our national qualities]” (our = US and British)
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“Comment” about children’s book week. Sarcastic and hilarious!
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ads: for art shows, bookshops, books, other periodicals
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ad layouts are like modern theater playbills; modern play programs are laid out much like this whole magazine with ads in the front and back and written or photgraphic content in the middle
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feels more like a magazine because of ads
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The Waste Land is the very first written contribution, only preceded by one watercolor painting. Perhaps because Eliot had been living in GB for a while by now and was perhaps more like a featured contributor – not included on the “notable contributors” page
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''The Criterion''
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I have found a note that Delauney (whose art is juxtaposed with The Waste Land) was most influenced as an artist by Rosseau.  Maybe there is something there?
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published October 1922 in London
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no ads
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'''10/12/12 - 12:48 am'''
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looks like a book from cover to cover
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no images
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My newest notes relating to thematic content of the contextual works:
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The Waste Land is in the middle of the publication --Elizabeth 09/08/2012 10:53pm
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'''The Criterion'''
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"The Victim" by May Sinclair: right after the Wasteland; bar-ish scene with possible cheating going on; the people speak in a certain dialect; leaving partner because of intervention from someone else; set during war time; "should not be surprised if he had lost his memory"
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"Dullness" by George Saintsbury: "Now, most literature...requires this small thing to be done ''by'' the reader. All [is] greatly improved, at any rate taken out of the possible vein of dullness, by activity instead of passivity on the reader's part."
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"The Story of Tristram and Isolt in Modern Poetry" by T. Sturge Moore: fertility...this author is treating legendary lovers and he says their situation "forced illegal passion on these lovers."; "Is adultery ever to be condoned?"
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"Recent German Poetry" by Hermann Hesse: essay; notes that "two principal themes are everywhere predominant: rebellion against authority and against the culture of that authority in process of downfall; and eroticism...They indicate, in fact, the two central interests of youth." "The experience of the Great War, with the collapse of all the old forms and the breakdown of moral codes and cultures hitherto valid, appears to be incapable of interpretation except by psycho-analysis."
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"The 'Ulysses' of James Joyce" by Valery Larbaud: Editor's note "This essay...is still the best introduction that has been offered to Mr. Joyce's book."; The first two sentences acknowledge that only "the cultivated reader who can fully appreciate such authors as Rabelais, Montaigne, and Descartes" and who has "The ''Odyssey'' clearly in mind" will be able to read te book with any understanding or pleasure. Last content in the magazine.
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Front page says "Vol. I No. 1" Is this the first issue???
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I'm curious as to how they chose the name "The Criterion" and how that might relate to included content, ie The Waste Land
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'''The Dial'''
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Vol LXXIII No. 5
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painting at front of Waste Land: St. Severin by Robert Delaunay. "Made in Germany" "Courtesy of Der Sturm, Berlin"
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Schnitzler: mention of a wedding; "You wish it so. You drive me into the arms of another."; "a sudden jealousy flamed up in Graesler; no doubt of it--she was with someone else."
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"Reflections on the Greek Genius" by Elie Faure: "the Greek fears two things: responsibility and death."
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"Landscape: south of France" by Duncan Grant - could go with our theme of globalization
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"Many Marriages" by Sherwood Anderson: fertility/marriage!
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"A Symposium of the Exotic" by Edward Sapir: a book review of ''American Indian Life''; "exotic" -- curiosity about the "other" although not from another place in the globe still that same feeling of a foreign culture.
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"Comment": "worst of all, the young person is reduced to the ranks, uncapitalized and almost decapitated as an authority on literature."
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That's what I have for now. Elizabeth Behm 09/12/2012 12:26am.
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I am currently looking at the criterion and I see that the foreign language in the poem is not italicized. 
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The following is a narrative of how the criterion format looks:
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On the first page there is a break between the lines "I read, much of the night, and go south in the winter"
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and (double spaced)
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What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow
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Last line on page: "And the dry stone no sound of water.  Only"
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Next page: There is shadow under this red rock,
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I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
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Frisch weht der Wind
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Wo Weilest du?
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"You game me hyacinths first a year ago;
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Loking into the heart of light, the silence.
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Od' und leer das Meer.
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Madame Sosostris, famous clairvoyante
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I see crowds of people, walking round in a ring.
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(Next page--not visible, must turn page)
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Now let me compare that to the first two pages from the Dial
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Oh wow, I just realized that the epigrah is NOT INCLUDED in the Criterion!
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The Dial
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The Burial of the Dead - As we've noted before, there is no numbering of the text that was published in America.
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April is the cruelest month, breeding
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I read, much of the night, and go south in the winter.
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(next page - must turn!)
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What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow
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I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
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''Frisch weht der Wind'' - this version is italicised!
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''Wo Weilest du?''
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You gave me hyacinths first a year ago;
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The Hanged Man.  Fear death by water.
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(next page - look across)
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There are more breaks in the British version of the poem.  The American version looks more like a continuous, long text--like Whiman's poetry.  Were publishers categorizing Eliot?
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Printed in Great Britain by Hazell, Watson & viney, Ld., London and Aylesbury.
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Ads in the back of The Dial
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Steinway (a piano company, prices $875 and up--plus freight)
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Steinway & sons, Steinway Hall, 109 E. 14th St, NY
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Scott & Fowles
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New Art Galleries
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667 5 avenue NY
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American paintings and sculpture - exhibition of the late William M Chase
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Ferargh Galleries
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607 5 Avenue
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Exhibition of Chinese Paintings
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Bourgeois Galleries Inc.
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668 5 avenue
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Jewels,
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Dreicer & Co
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560 5 ave
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The October edition of the Dial was sold out--by a lot.  Evidently, they increased their printing production by 2500 copies to make sure there was not another shortage.  (I am taking this from an apology that is printed in the back of book).
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"Joseph
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632 5 avenue
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fall fashions in the new sport wear room
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Misses' college clothes
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Daytime and dance frocks"
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The Copley-Plaza (in Boston)
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The Plaza (New York) - Hotels, of course
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DeSoto Hotel
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Savannah, GA.
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The premier Tourist Hotel of the South
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Open Jan 1 to May 1
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Chalfonte-
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Haddon Hall
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Atlantic City
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There are many literary service ads (about agents, books)
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Robert Thomas Hardy
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Play-Broker and Authors' agent
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25 W 42 St.
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Carl G Milligan
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Service for Authors, inc.
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33 West 42 st.
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I see an ad for a Russian inn, "gooks in all languages" from Boston, English (Cambridge business, H Heffer & sons ltd) dealer ads, German books, & periodicals, Stratford-on-avon, England, New York, Columbia, French books
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Hammond typewriter corp
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Edeson Radio Phones
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ad for "the literary review"
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The Dial is longer and wider
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The Dial
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Thanks Elizabeth!  Okay, here are notes from this past Friday when I returned to Special Collections:
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The Dial was actually published in connecticut, although its offices were located at 152 W 13th St. New York, NY.  View the space of the old office here: [http://goo.gl/maps/Nbiqz]
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As for the issue of the Dial in which the Waste Land appeared: Vol. LXXIII No. 5 Nov 1922
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Cost, $.50 per issue or $5 for a yearly subscription.
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Editor: Scofield Thayer
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Managing Editor: Gilbert Seldes
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Notes on Contributors:
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Constantin Brancusi- scultper, born in Romania, living in Paris
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Robert Delaunay - born in Paris in 1887, influenced by Russeau
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Elie Faure - author of The History of Art, reviewed by Thomas Craven in Feb 1922 issue of The Dial. In this issue, Faure replies to Craven's criticism.
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Duncan Grant - born in Scottish highlands.
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Adolph Dehn - living in Germany and Austria
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Sebastien Cauiflower - American
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The Dial does include ads.  They are ordered below by appearance:
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Harcourt, Brace & Company
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The Century Company
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Macmillan
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Broom Magazine
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Boni & Liveright
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The New Republic
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Knopf
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The Atlantic Monthly Press - 7 Steel: The Diary of a Furnace Worker
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Little, Brown & Company - This Freedom by ASM Hutchinson
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Theatre Magazine "A History of theatre in America."
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Doubleday, Page & Co.
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George H Doran & Co.
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Brentanos Publishers
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Harper & Brothers
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Houghton Mifflin
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Robert M McBride & Co.
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Costikyan & Co. - 12 E 40 St New York, NY. - "Antique & Modern Rugs from the Orient." "Largest Assortment in the World."
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Notes about text:
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"An edition of the The Land with annotations will presently be issued by Boni & Liveright" - The editors.
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In the dial, the first break in the text actually comes at the end of the page
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"HURRY UP PLEASE IT'S TIME" actually appears in a different font from the rest of the poem (it's not only capitalized).
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There are differences in pagination as concerns the poem in the U.S and British editions.
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In The Criterion, the following lines were not aligned to the right (as they were in The Dial).  Instead, they were simply indented: "if there were water," "I sat upon the shore," "A current under sea," Gentile or Jew,"
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The Hot Water at 10."
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9-10-12, 10:32 am
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Here are my notes so far. I spent considerably more time with the Dial than the Criterion last week. :: ''The Dial'' :: Published October 1922 (November issue) in New York. Sections of poem not enumerated I, II, III, IV, V. Schnitzler, Weinstein, “Made in Germany” – German contributions, post-war, with Waste Land’s war themes, universal war not anti-Germany right now. WB Yeats’ play The Player Queen is right after the Waste Land. Schnitzler: October Graesler starts with “XII (continued)” – an installment of a novel transalted from German. Picasso drawings of naked women lounging – was this not scandal? ''Date?'' Also paintings of nude/acrobats by Duncan Grant. ''Who is he?'' Adolph Dehn. “Drinkers” during Prohibition… "Any Marriages" by Sherwood Anderson starts with Chapter IV, and goes into ch 1 or Book Two, possibly to leave suspense to look for the rest of part 2. “Paris Letter” by Ezra Pound. Lots of interesting stuff on the first page: 1. “literature is regarded in America as an advertising medium.” 2. “our brilliant contemporary Mr T.S. Eliot constantly assures us that he is about to pursue [the attempt to disentangle our national qualities]” (our = US and British). “Comment” about children’s book week. Sarcastic and hilarious! Ads: for art shows, bookshops, books, other periodicals. Ad layouts are like modern theater playbills; modern play programs are laid out much like this whole magazine with ads in the front and back and written or photgraphic content in the middle. Feels more like a magazine because of ads. The Waste Land is the very first written contribution, only preceded by one watercolor painting. Perhaps because Eliot had been living in GB for a while by now and was perhaps more like a featured contributor – not included on the “notable contributors” page. :: ''The Criterion'' :: Published October 1922 in London. No ads. Looks like a book from cover to cover. No images. The Waste Land is in the middle of the publication --Elizabeth 09/08/2012 10:53pm

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